Ivica Bek
Player stickers Yugoslavia (200)
Todor VeselinovicSticker n. 112
UEFA Euro France 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Dejan SavicevicSticker n. 328
World Cup Italia 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Vujadin StanojkovicSticker n. 73
UEFA Euro Sweden 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Vladimir PetrovicSticker n. 320
FIFA World Cup España 1982
Year: 1982 -
Publishing house:
Ivica KraljSticker n. 254
World Cup France 98
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Vladimir JugovicSticker n. 399
Fifa World Cup France 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
SusicSticker n. 113
Espanha 82
Year: 1982 -
Publishing house:
HalilhodzicSticker n. 107
Euro 84
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Robert ProsineckiSticker n. 281
FIFA World Cup Italia 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
SekularacCard n. 172
Futebol Mundial 1962
Year: 1962 -
Publishing house:
Ivica SurjakSticker n. 161
Euro Football 77
Year: 1976 -
Publishing house:
Slavisa JokanovicSticker n. 105
Los Super Cards del Mundial Francia 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Ilija NajdoskiSticker n. 147
Euro 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Dejan SavicevicSticker n. 284
FIFA World Cup Italia 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Dejan SavicevicSticker n. 228
UEFA Euro Belgium-Netherlands 2000
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Darko PancevSticker n. 327
World Cup Italia 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Ivan GudeljSticker n. 318
FIFA World Cup España 1982
Year: 1982 -
Publishing house:
Dragan DzajicSticker n. 133
München 74
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
PavlovicSticker n. 110
Campeonato Mundial de Futbol 1974
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
Ljubinko DrulovicSticker n. 149
Star Publishing Euro 2000. European Football Championship
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Miroslav DjukicSticker n. 394
Fifa World Cup France 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Dragoslav SekularacSticker n. 297
Fussball 1963-1964
Year: 1963 -
Publishing house:
Slavisa JokanovicSticker n. 156
Euro 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Aleksandar KocicSticker n. 372
World Cup 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Davor SukerSticker n. 158
Euro 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
GudeljSticker n. 102
Euro 84
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Safet SusicSticker n. 284
World Cup 1990
Year: 1989 -
Publishing house:
BjekovicSticker n. 113
Campeonato Mundial de Futbol 1974
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
BazderevicSticker n. 101
Euro 84
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Nemad BjekovicSticker n. 132
München 74
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
Safet SusicSticker n. 280
FIFA World Cup Italia 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Ivan BuljanSticker n. 158
Euro Football 77
Year: 1976 -
Publishing house:
GalicCard n. 176
Futebol Mundial 1962
Year: 1962 -
Publishing house:
Miroslav DjukicSticker n. 109
Los Super Cards del Mundial Francia 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Mehmed BazdarevicSticker n. 280
World Cup 1990
Year: 1989 -
Publishing house:
Ratko SvilarSticker n. 166
Euro 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Ivo JerolimovSticker n. 321
FIFA World Cup España 1982
Year: 1982 -
Publishing house:
YercovicSticker n. 116
Campeonato Mundial de Futbol 1974
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
Farukh HadzibegicSticker n. 277
World Cup 1990
Year: 1989 -
Publishing house:
Dragan Dzajic (Yugoslavia)Sticker n. 352
Football Belgium 1972-1973
Year: 1972 -
Publishing house:
VojvodinaSticker n. 166
Badges football clubs
Year: 1975 -
Publishing house:
Marko ElsnerSticker n. 288
World Cup 1990
Year: 1989 -
Publishing house:
Zoran FilipovicSticker n. 370
FIFA World Cup Argentina 1978
Year: 1978 -
Publishing house:
Zlato KrmpoticSticker n. 163
Euro 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Predrag PasicSticker n. 326
FIFA World Cup España 1982
Year: 1982 -
Publishing house:
Miroslav DjukicSticker n. 257
World Cup France 98
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Zoran VujovicSticker n. 276
Campeonato De Futebol Mundial 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
PetrovicSticker n. 110
Espanha 82
Year: 1982 -
Publishing house:
Predrag MijatovicSticker n. 155
Euro 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Zoran VulicSticker n. 273
Campeonato De Futebol Mundial 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
PetrovichSticker n. 69
Ases Mundiales. España 82
Year: 1982 -
Publishing house:
Dragan StojkovicSticker n. 382
World Cup 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Predrag SpasicSticker n. 71
UEFA Euro Sweden 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Predrag SpasicSticker n. 142
Euro 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Dragan DzajicSticker n. 160
Euro Football 77
Year: 1976 -
Publishing house:
Nenad StojkovicSticker n. 156
Euro 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Slavisa JokanovicSticker n. 261
World Cup France 98
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Ilija NajdoskiSticker n. 74
UEFA Euro Sweden 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Srboljub StamenkovicSticker n. 167
Euro Football 77
Year: 1976 -
Publishing house:
OblakSticker n. 117
Campeonato Mundial de Futbol 1974
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
Budimir VujacicSticker n. 75
UEFA Euro Sweden 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Dragoljub BrnovicSticker n. 278
FIFA World Cup Italia 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Mehmed BazdarevicSticker n. 152
Euro 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Dragoljub BrnovicSticker n. 236
Italia 1990. Goal Master
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Momcilo VukoticSticker n. 163
Euro Football 77
Year: 1976 -
Publishing house:
Branislav DrobnjakSticker n. 115
UEFA Euro France 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Vladimir PetrovicSticker n. 155
Euro 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Dusan BajevicSticker n. 131
München 74
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
Miroslav DjukicSticker n. 75
Liga Spagnola 1992-1993
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Enver MaricSticker n. 138
München 74
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
Zlatko VujovicSticker n. 282
FIFA World Cup Italia 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Predrag MijatovicSticker n. 88
UEFA Euro Sweden 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Nenad GrozdicSticker n. 220
UEFA Euro Belgium-Netherlands 2000
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Ivica KraljSticker n. 213
UEFA Euro Belgium-Netherlands 2000
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Savo MiloševicSticker n. 385
World Cup 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Vladan LukicSticker n. 159
Euro 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Slavisa JokanovicSticker n. 144
Star Publishing Euro 2000. European Football Championship
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Faruk HadzibegicSticker n. 76
UEFA Euro Sweden 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Dragan StojkovicSticker n. 279
Campeonato De Futebol Mundial 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Robert ProsineckiSticker n. 281
Campeonato De Futebol Mundial 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Nikola JovanovicSticker n. 162
Euro 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Enver MaricSticker n. 184
FIFA World Cup München 1974
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
Safet SusicSticker n. 241
Italia 1990. Goal Master
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Miroslav PavlovicSticker n. 141
München 74
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
Miroslav DjukicSticker n. 214
UEFA Euro Belgium-Netherlands 2000
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Savo MilosevicSticker n. 230
UEFA Euro Belgium-Netherlands 2000
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Tomislav IvkovicSticker n. 131
UEFA Euro France 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Predrag SpasicSticker n. 275
FIFA World Cup Italia 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
VujovicSticker n. 111
Espanha 82
Year: 1982 -
Publishing house:
Vujadin StanojkovicSticker n. 145
Euro 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Dragan HolcerSticker n. 134
München 74
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
Dzoni NovakSticker n. 82
UEFA Euro Sweden 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Darko PancevSticker n. 157
Euro 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Milos OristicSticker n. 153
Euro 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Zoran SimovicSticker n. 113
UEFA Euro France 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Robert ProsineckiSticker n. 149
Euro 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Predrag SpasicSticker n. 275
Campeonato De Futebol Mundial 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Savo MilosevicSticker n. 151
Star Publishing Euro 2000. European Football Championship
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Tomislav IvkovicSticker n. 131
Euro 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Stanislav KarasiSticker n. 192
FIFA World Cup München 1974
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
Dragan Dzajic (Bastia)Sticker n. 134
Euro Soccer Stars 1977
Year: 1977 -
Publishing house:
Ivan BuljanSticker n. 149
Euro 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Velimir ZajecSticker n. 117
UEFA Euro France 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
ZeljeznicarSticker n. 167
Badges football clubs
Year: 1975 -
Publishing house:
Drago VabecSticker n. 164
Euro Football 77
Year: 1976 -
Publishing house:
Jovan AcimovicSticker n. 162
Euro Football 77
Year: 1976 -
Publishing house:
Iljia PetkovicSticker n. 194
FIFA World Cup München 1974
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
Sinisa MihajlovicSticker n. 83
UEFA Euro Sweden 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Albert NadjSticker n. 381
World Cup 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Zoran VujovicSticker n. 235
Italia 1990. Goal Master
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Dragoje LekovicSticker n. 133
Euro 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
PeruzovicSticker n. 98
Euro 84
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Dragan JacovljevicSticker n. 246
Italia 1990. Goal Master
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Zoran VujovicSticker n. 289
World Cup 1990
Year: 1989 -
Publishing house:
Zoran VulicSticker n. 278
World Cup 1990
Year: 1989 -
Publishing house:
Mehmed BazdarevicSticker n. 124
UEFA Euro France 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Ivica SurjakSticker n. 322
FIFA World Cup España 1982
Year: 1982 -
Publishing house:
Dejan SavicevicSticker n. 35
Los Super Cards del Mundial Francia 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Dejan SavicevicSticker n. 150
Euro 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Haris SkoroSticker n. 285
Campeonato De Futebol Mundial 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Ivan BuljanSticker n. 314
FIFA World Cup España 1982
Year: 1982 -
Publishing house:
Fahrudin OmerovicSticker n. 69
UEFA Euro Sweden 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
SoskicCard n. 164
Futebol Mundial 1962
Year: 1962 -
Publishing house:
Milos SesticSticker n. 127
UEFA Euro France 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Dejan StankovicSticker n. 224
UEFA Euro Belgium-Netherlands 2000
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Vladislav BogicevicSticker n. 188
FIFA World Cup München 1974
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
ZoranSticker n. 94
Euro 84
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Srecko KatanecSticker n. 277
FIFA World Cup Italia 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Zlatko VujovicSticker n. 244
Italia 1990. Goal Master
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Zoran MirkovicSticker n. 376
World Cup 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
KovacevicSticker n. 177
Futebol Mundial 1962
Year: 1962 -
Publishing house:
Vahid HalilhodzicSticker n. 151
Euro 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Blaz SliskovicSticker n. 125
UEFA Euro France 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Darko PancevSticker n. 87
UEFA Euro Sweden 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Robert ProsineckiSticker n. 243
Italia 1990. Goal Master
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Dejan SavicevicSticker n. 380
World Cup 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Ivica SurjakSticker n. 157
Euro 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Fahrudin OmerovicSticker n. 269
Campeonato De Futebol Mundial 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Sinisa MihajlovicSticker n. 395
Fifa World Cup France 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Dejan SavicevicSticker n. 284
Campeonato De Futebol Mundial 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Budimir VujacicSticker n. 276
World Cup 1990
Year: 1989 -
Publishing house:
Safet SusicSticker n. 90
Ases Mundiales. España 82
Year: 1982 -
Publishing house:
Ivan GudeljSticker n. 123
UEFA Euro France 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Vladimir JugovicSticker n. 146
Star Publishing Euro 2000. European Football Championship
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Ivica SurjakSticker n. 89
Ases Mundiales. España 82
Year: 1982 -
Publishing house:
Sinisa Mihajlovic (Yugoslavia)Sticker n. 118
UEFA Euro Belgium-Netherlands 2000
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Jurica JerkovicSticker n. 135
München 74
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
Jovan StankovicSticker n. 221
UEFA Euro Belgium-Netherlands 2000
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
KatalinskiSticker n. 111
Campeonato Mundial de Futbol 1974
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
Vladimir JugovicSticker n. 223
UEFA Euro Belgium-Netherlands 2000
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Slaviša JokanovicSticker n. 378
World Cup 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Deazen BolicSticker n. 219
UEFA Euro Belgium-Netherlands 2000
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Dejan Stankovic (Yugoslavia)Sticker n. 158
UEFA Euro Belgium-Netherlands 2000
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
DurkovicCard n. 166
Futebol Mundial 1962
Year: 1962 -
Publishing house:
Ljubomir RadanovicSticker n. 118
UEFA Euro France 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Dejan GovedaricaSticker n. 400
Fifa World Cup France 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
PerusicSticker n. 168
Futebol Mundial 1962
Year: 1962 -
Publishing house:
VabecSticker n. 112
Campeonato Mundial de Futbol 1974
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
KrmpoticSticker n. 100
Euro 84
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Safet SusicSticker n. 217
UEFA Euro Italy 1980
Year: 1980 -
Publishing house:
Fahrudin OmerovicSticker n. 132
Euro 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Goran DjorovicSticker n. 258
World Cup France 98
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Josip KatalinskiSticker n. 136
München 74
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
Darko MilanicSticker n. 72
UEFA Euro Sweden 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Predrag MijatovicSticker n. 267
World Cup France 98
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Vladimir JugovicSticker n. 77
UEFA Euro Sweden 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Predrag SpasicSticker n. 237
Italia 1990. Goal Master
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Anto DrobnjakSticker n. 386
World Cup 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Predrag MijatovicSticker n. 229
UEFA Euro Belgium-Netherlands 2000
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Ivica SurjakSticker n. 216
UEFA Euro Italy 1980
Year: 1980 -
Publishing house:
Goran DjorovicSticker n. 374
World Cup 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Albert NadjSticker n. 227
UEFA Euro Belgium-Netherlands 2000
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Srecko KatanecSticker n. 239
Italia 1990. Goal Master
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Darko KovacevicSticker n. 154
Supercalcio 1999-2000
Year: 1999 -
Publishing house:
Goran DjorovicSticker n. 215
UEFA Euro Belgium-Netherlands 2000
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Ilija PetkovicSticker n. 142
München 74
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
KrivokucaSticker n. 108
Campeonato Mundial de Futbol 1974
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
Brane OblakSticker n. 190
FIFA World Cup München 1974
Year: 1974 -
Publishing house:
Branko BrnovicSticker n. 402
Fifa World Cup France 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Predrag MijatovicSticker n. 293
World Cup 1990
Year: 1989 -
Publishing house:
Dejan SavicevicSticker n. 266
World Cup France 98
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Safet SusicSticker n. 126
UEFA Euro France 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Safet SusicSticker n. 280
Campeonato De Futebol Mundial 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Ivica SurjakSticker n. 368
FIFA World Cup Argentina 1978
Year: 1978 -
Publishing house:
Zoran VujovicSticker n. 120
UEFA Euro France 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Faruk HadzibegicSticker n. 274
Campeonato De Futebol Mundial 1990
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Nisa SaveljicSticker n. 218
UEFA Euro Belgium-Netherlands 2000
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Sinisa MihajlovicSticker n. 12
FIFA World Cup France 1998. Trading Cards
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Predrag MijatovicSticker n. 404
Fifa World Cup France 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Faruk HadzibegicSticker n. 143
Euro 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Velimir ZajecSticker n. 315
FIFA World Cup España 1982
Year: 1982 -
Publishing house:
Dejan SavicevicSticker n. 80
UEFA Euro Sweden 1992
Year: 1992 -
Publishing house:
Milan JankovicSticker n. 242
Italia 1990. Goal Master
Year: 1990 -
Publishing house:
Zvezdan CvetkovicSticker n. 119
UEFA Euro France 1984
Year: 1984 -
Publishing house:
Slavisa JokanovicSticker n. 222
UEFA Euro Belgium-Netherlands 2000
Year: 2000 -
Publishing house:
Vladimir JugovicSticker n. 379
World Cup 1998
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Haris SkoroSticker n. 291
World Cup 1990
Year: 1989 -
Publishing house:
MijatovicCard n. R3b
Calcio Cards 1999-2000
Year: 1999 -
Publishing house:
Vladimir JugovicSticker n. 264
World Cup France 98
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
Dragan StojkovicSticker n. 68
FIFA World Cup France 1998. Trading Cards
Year: 1998 -
Publishing house:
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02/06/2025
Massimo de Vito, nato a Salerno (purtroppo) il 11/11/1978. Fin da bambino collezionista di figurine (ricordo vagamente la raccolta 1985/86, mentre ricordo benissimo la raccolta 1986/87 allorchè abitavo ad Andria e durante quel periodo ottenni i miei primi 4 autografi in assoluto (di Landucci, Ferrara, Bergomi e Gianluca Vialli), durante una amichevole in preparazione di Euro 88.. Sono anche molto conosciuto per i miei incontri di persona con gli ex calciatori di un tempo, ai quali faccio sempre autografare le loro figurine (l' ultimo autografo di prestigio che ho ottenuto è quello di Alessandro Del Piero un paio di settimane fa....);L' elenco complessivo dei nomi è importante, ci vorrebbe molto spazio, diciamo che quando ho iniziato ad incontrare con una certa continuità gli ex calciatori, creandomi una mia rete di conoscenze importante (correva l' anno 2015...), il mio sogno era di incontrare 4 o 5 big della nostra Nazionale, ossia, pensavo a Gigi Riva, Gianni Rivera, Roberto Boninsegna, Dino Zoff, Ricky Albertosi, Angelo Domenghini.....ecco, mi sarei accontentato di incontrare ''solo'' questi personaggi, invece mi sono
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